How did you like the creative way I spelled: "dialogue"?
That's to preclude the possibility of duplicate webpage file names . . . I have written so many.
Better to be safe than sorry. Cheap insurance.
Speaking of that, consider the following imaginary discourse between me (M) and an atheist (A):
A: I simply cannot understand why you who so boldly and dangerously claim belief in Intelligent Design and the Bible leap ahead presumptuously to emphatically state that both are infallibly believable. Why not instead purport that both might be substantially credible rather than dogmatically asserting that both are non-deniably entirely valid?
M: Why not? I have free choice to do that, as you have free choice to rudely and disappointingly question my belief. Am I harming anyone by proclaiming that both Intelligent Design and the Bible are not only for real, but iron-clad fact?
A: Not really. Words are merely words. You can - within reason - utter and mouth anything you darn please.
M: At least you acknowledge that I have that much leeway. By the way, on what basis would you question the veracity of the existence of Intelligent Design and the entire contents of the Holy Bible?
A: Just for the heck of it, to be confrontational and try to pick a fight with you.
M: Any why would you want to do that?
A: You're asking a loaded two-part question. We must first ascertain if I would want to do that, then we could contemplate concerning the why of it.
M: True. So you mentioned you are attempting to pick a fight with me. Why?
A: To make you mad to see if you claim that that gives Intelligent Design the right to command you to hit me.
M: I see. So you want me to say: "Just do what I say and nobody gets hurt"? And what if you discovered that the merely-non-lifeform concept of "intelligent design" did not command me to harm you?
A: That would be disappointing.
A: Because I apprehensively anticipate (for lack of a better word) that you are going to question my disbelief, which will cause me uneasy discomfort by trapping me into a silently-speechless corner.
M: Disbelief in what? That phenomena around us, and which we both were born into, was not intelligently designed, and/or that the Bible does not even exist.
A: To allege that environmental entities around us have not been intelligently designed would be stupid, ludicrous, and arguably insane plus pathetically laughable. And to purport that the Bible does not even exist would also be asinine and foolish.
M: So why not admit the deductive and consequential conclusion that what has been intelligently designed was created not by illogical and impossible randomness of it's own lifeless, inanimate, and non-preexisting supposed free will and intention, but rather created by a Creator who clearly was quite intelligent, and moreover is - or at least was - highly imaginative, and profoundly benevolent, in terms of what He or It accommodatingly placed us into for our continued survival?
A: Assuming that the Creator is at least somewhat superior, in all ways, to all of what the Divine Entity or Force created, calling Him an "It" leaves much to be desired.
Look, the name and general purposes of that Superior Being are not engraved with His identity disclosing such on anything in nature, whether blades of grass or tree leaves or clouds or water or rocks and whatever.
M: I know, I know. But we do have the Bible, which informs us of a lot of that. Don't you admit that much of what is in Scripture ties in perfectly with entities and processes within our environment? They are congruent with each other. Impeccably so.
A: The rules and regulations of the Bible are admittedly a well-thought-out and workable, viable and detailed-enough, set of Operating Instructions for pleasant and orderly human interdependence and morality-awareness interaction. But how about the story of miracles? I do not see anything like that happening nowadays.
M: Miracles in Scripture are not that frequent, and unusual or spectacular events in nature can theoretically happen - at least once in human history and beyond. But you mean that you haven't see a fly give birth to a flea or worm, or a chimp giving birth to a human yet? Or planetary lava magically changing into ocean water or kosher Jewish wine at Cana of Galilee?
A: Don't be funny with me. This is serious stuff. How can you presume that God audibly spoke to humans, especially out of the blue from the sky, or that weird and incredibly bizarre miracles written in the Bible actually happened? Is your leap of faith in proclaiming such without photographic or audio proof something to be admired?
M: It's somewhat of a question of probable cause. A gamble. You cannot quickly or even gradually prove much of what others claim is "historical." The Earth is anything but flat, and does not revolve around the moon. Vehemence or persistence in asserting something is no proof, but can be mere obstinate stubborness.
But when pieces of the big puzzle all fit together as they are discovered and assembled, assumptions can, and should, be made and acted upon based upon my own observation and analysis, which - by the way - is not to be sniffed at. And a whole host of others have concurred with me. Groups of rational sane-minded Bible-believing witnesses never having been arrested and comfortably thriving financially. Not only that, but I have generally adjusted to phenomena of nature around me just as the Bible dictates, with the result being I am yet alive and live on quite adequately, comfortably, and non-damaged.
A: But why is that enough to go ahead, make a huge and almost wild leap of faith, and dogmatically assert that Biblical contents are all true? Do you really have enough viable hard facts to do that? Why not simply state that such might be true instead of assuredly is true?
M: Evidence continues to accumulate that it all is true, even though I obviously was not present in person eyewitnessing much of what apparently happened historically according to the contents of Scripture, and neither were you there at the time.
A: But, again, why not hold off dogmatically claiming it all is true until you have enough and sufficient proof?
M: Again, it's a gamble. And sometimes we are put under pressure to make a crucial decision for-or-against without knowing the totality of all that there is to know, which - I gather - is impossible anyway for any human being to be completely omniscient.
If the police or credible news source informed you of something ahead that would be lethal to you (and maybe him also), would you not act in faith at his warning and divert your pre-planned path and activities? Do you believe cellphone radio reports of a severe traffic jam ahead, or instead presume that a bunch of jokers are trying to deceitfully manipulate you and everyone else who happens to hear them?
If a game warden told you to not jump off a high cliff with sharp rocks far below, would you doubt or question his warning? He never did it himself, so how can he religiously judge for you or tell you? Isn't that hypocritical on his inexperienced part? How does he know? Is he not a Christian-fundamentalist know-it-all, greedy for offering or taxpayer money?
But if you do not jump, [non-gullibly?] believing his warning, why not? How many persons have you seen jump off that particular cliff and then both excruciatingly and fatally crush themselves to death by having jumped against the warden's persistently-harassive demand or urgent advice? Maybe it never had happened before. So mere legendary heresay to instill anti-self-esteem inferiority-complex fear? How do you know that gravity would work in your case if you did not want it to, or ordered it not to, thus defy it when you jump and pretend that you're some graceful bird, butterfly, bat, or Superman blithely coasting around in mid-air then gently landing at your own particular whim and timing?
Who would conquer: God's sovereign non-alterable will manifested in gravity and sharp rocks . . . or instead your dumb-donkey/mule/burro/other-bottom-ended lying and defiant contrary presumptions?
Go jump if you presume to adversarially compete against the Almighty . . . and good riddance!
A: So you think that we have enough proof and confidence to go with it?
M: Glad you included "we". We both essentially walked off the same Ark together, and before that had the same super-grandparents. Nothing has credibly contradicted my claims regarding and not concerning the validity of Scripture, if one reads it all and compares verses with other verses to clarify what is therein to avoid being connived or forced into claiming what seems to be irreparable contradictions.
During pre-Election 2016, most network newspersons emphatically asserted that Hillary was going to easily win, but which was confusing because of conflicting reports of Trump drawing 10,000 and more to his rallies while Hillary was only attracting around 200 or so.
Super-smart atheists and agnostics have tried their damndest to discredit the Bible - only to end up bitterly frustrated and pitifully dead, or being converted.
A: So simply because someone presumptuously declares the Bible untrue in certain parts does not make it untrue?
M: Exactly. Impudently-arrogant naysaying is no proof at all, but simply despicable and shameful belligerence exhibited.
A: Let me get this straight. You are saying that environmental entities and phenomena which obviously were intelligently designed were created by a Creator God, who you have understandably associated with a male instead of a female pronoun? But you trust that the totality of the limited contents of Scripture per se are completely believable and something one can non-embarrassingly depend on?
M: Let's take an example. Suppose an atheist is taking a Driver's License Road Exam with the Examining Officer sitting beside him as the two are traveling along, and the atheist sees some road signs which state: "Right Turn Only" and: "Stop Ahead," then he blurts out to the Officer the words: "Those signs are not true."
What would the Exam Officer reply, if anything?
A: I suppose that if he did reply anything after hearing that surprising comment, it might be either: "Why would you say that"? or "How do you know that"? or "On what basis do you claim that"? And the atheist might then respond with either: "I know that that is the case" or: "I simply do not believe what I read on and about those signs".
M: And the Officer might then add: "If you do not prepare ahead of time for what the signs you read claim, you will not accommodate in time to what the predictive signs warned you about, resulting in at least possible if not probable complications". And if the atheist then retorted: "I do not believe that" what would the Officer then say - if anything?
A: If the atheist non-hypocritically acted upon atheistic-type disbelief, and assuming that there was not a resulting traffic accident, and that the Officer patiently and quietly held his peace to see what happens, the Officer might finally (and thankfully) order the atheist to drive back to the Examining Station, then give the atheist a document stating that the atheist failed the Driving Test.
M: Upon receiving that, the atheist might query: "Why did you fail me"? to which the Officer might reply: "Because you did not believe the warning road signs to prepare you for what actually existed to properly act upon when arriving at the predicted situation".
A: So what you are implying is that it is better to be safe than sorry, in that if Christianity and the Bible thereof is actually and really true, it would be better for my eternal destiny - assuming that there is one - to take the child-like leap of faith and dogmatically claim it all valid.
M: What would you have to lose? Would someone, like ISIS, have the audacity to try to murder you for doing that? If they tried, would you not defend yourself if and as able? Would you not self-defensively try to kill them instead?
Or are you waiting for someone to come along to prove - beyond a shadow of any doubt - that all within Scripture is a sadistically-depriving maliciously-deceitful fabricated lie, or even a silly but non-funny childish myth or make-believe fairy-tale story? Are you internally waiting for or craving that? And if so, why would you want to do that?
A: I do not want to be embarrassed and laughed at for being ridiculously naive and gullible. To hamper or interrupt my lifestyle because of conspiracy theory or fake news is beneath my dignity.
M: Is there any factual and credible basis now for presuming that believing Scriptural contents would classify you as ludicrously gullible?
A: No. Not that I current know of. But who knows what will be exposed and publicized someday? What if we discover illegal aliens from outer space sometime in the future?
M: So if push comes to shove, and it will sooner or later, which choice will you choose pertaining to Scripture?
A: I'll cross that bridge if I come to it, when it would come to it.
M: And until then, realizing that you might not have that much longer to live to choose?
A: Are you threatening me to prematurely make critical decision at this time?
M: Don't you think that it is better to be safe than sorry? To assert that Scripture is valid now will cause disdain, rebuke, and persecution from other fool atheists who are persisting in their despicable unfounded disbelief. But if you come to the conclusion that the Bible is remarkably and admirably valid and sensible, and verbally admit such, don't you think that you will then be acceptable in the determination of the God of the Bible, far more honorable than hatefully-reviling vile-vermin-scum atheists?
A: Don't push me. You are asking a do-or-die life-changing question with profound consequences. I will think about it.
M: Just don't wait too long. Time for you, and the other atheists, is running out.
A: I know, I know. Let me alone so that I can ponder all this before it is too late. To appease you, I will try to give you my audible response at lunch around noon tomorrow.
Another thing just occurred to me. If I go along with this God-and-the-Bible-is-correct thing, how would He react to me, being that I have grossly disbelieved Him previously? Is He not already seriously ticked off at me for proverbially slapping His face with my noxious disbelief, and so is not my potential interaction and reconciliation with Him already ruined?
M: We all have often not accommodated to His immutable and benevolent environmental phenomena and principles, whether because of outside duress imposed on us or our own deliberate and non-thinking faithlessness. Ever since He allowed pollutive evil disobedience into society - humans misusing His resources to hurt themselves and others - by causing the dilemma of suffering having imposed the Tempter, Lethal Tree, and Free Will into the otherwise-perfect Garden of Eden, we were dumb enough to make use of it all. But part of the contents of the Bible states that He had expected that by mercifully pre-planning and providing a fabulous Contingency Plan for rectification for us asinine-but-sorry screw-ups.
A: Which was . . . ?
M: Having one of His own (by the name of Jesus Christ) being born, live a few years, be intensely persecuted by disobedient-against-morality jewish and other disbelievers, murdered as an innocent criminal by experiencing a bloody death on some Roman cross over in Israel, and thus became and continues to be the Divine Sacrifice which atones for the sins of all sinners guilty of not simply "whoopsies" but diabolical deeds of disbelief-and-disobedience-based treachery against Him and His natural phenomena. Simply believing and professing that "gospel of grace" - as they call it - and desiring to not sinfully screw up anymore, comprises the complete Restoration Package, and it works.
A: Kinky. Sounds easy as pie, a piece of cake, and less fattening than both.
M: A little exercise never hurt anybody.
Discrimination is not synonymous with discernment, because discrimination has the additional factor or characteristic of making judgments of choice, sometimes involving acceptance of a particular person(s) or ideological philosophy or religious concept while at the same time rejecting some other person(s) or opposing (not simply "contrasting") ideological philosophy or religious concept.
Discrimination CAN be godly (or righteous) discrimination (as the Judeo-Christian Sacred-66-books Holy Bible defines "godly" and "righteous") is ALWAYS good and beneficial (as that Bible also defines both of those terms).
Consider "traffic-control lights" at some road intersections.
Notice that I did not instead call them "stoplights." (Had I done so, the one-sided or biased would consider that "negative" - and we all should not be thus narrow-minded, should we?).
"Good" (law-enforcement-officers-approved) drivers DO discriminate regarding (and not "concerning") both red compared with green intersection-control lights. They stop at red, but go through at green, and do not do both simultaneously.
It is not that drivers hate red lights by usually going through on green ones, nor that they hate green lights by usually stopping at red ones. As the Old-Testament states: "There is a time and place for everything," and one must not seek acquiescing and compromising peace when war for survival is expedient, nor wimpishly love in fear-of-humanity cowardice when bold, brave, and courageous hate is both vital and crucial.
They instead do what they usually do under threat of punishment pertaining to the possibility of choosing to not responsibly discriminate and not physically respond accordingly when and for how long they clearly should (and must!) discriminate in those situations.
They are under legal compulsion and requirement to share and take turns at intersections by means of intersection-control lights, for orderly traffic flow as most everyone's mutually-understood and operationally-agreed-upon purpose.
I would guess that if the very-improbable occurred . . . if BOTH red AND green lights appeared together at once at some intersection, most drivers (but perhaps not all) would tend toward the negative by slowing down to some extent, cautiously looking both ways, and carefully but quickly proceeding through that intersection if then when they perceive all is clear at the time.
The previously-mentioned discrimination is applicable to the areas of Biblically-alluded-to moral and immoral thoughts and actions, as in the areas of choosing to go through with or instead stop concerning committing the sinful perversion of becoming and being homogay sodomites contrasted with performing marital heterosexuality, committing the sin of anti-reproductively murdering human babes in wombs contrasted with the clinical and medical health of performing childbirth and nurturing reproduced same-kind-lifeform human offspring, committing the heresy of espousing evolution mythology contrasted with performing allegiance to logical and thoroughly-documented historical Biblical young-Earth creationism, etc.
It is amusing, yet sad and pathetic, to watch big-name pro-homogay-supportive TV-talkshow maggots (or is it "magnates?") like anti-firearms-possession Piers Morgan, Colbert, Anderson Cooper, Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Hayes, Rachel Madcow (sorry: Maddow), and other editorialists puff and promote the homogay and homosodomite cause, while -- in their fast-talking trip-over-themselves blurbilizing babble and blatter -- probably presuming (not assuming) that they can and will eradicate or revise the immutable retribution-intended anti-homogay/anti-homosodomite hatred of God Himself (revealed by His non-changing non-alterable natural environment phenomena and operation mechanisms, along with His reliably-historical Divinely-inspired/humanly-authored Holy Bible) plus His Spirit-empowered, well-entrenched, zealous (i.e. "radical and extremist"), Christian saints . . . relating to righteous disdain and rejection against all things and persons homosexual.
There has been prophesied in the New-Testament book of Revelation [Revelation 13:16 and Revelation 17:16] at least two noteworthy things:
(1) The False-Prophet Antichrist will program his pseudo-"living" robotic Image of the Beast to cause all humans on planet Earth (who comply) to be tattooed with a 666 branding on forehead or right hand to buy and sell, thus monopolizing and unifying worldwide commercial transactions (something even Adolf Hitler did not and could not do during the 1940s), and
(2)The Beast Antichrist will hate the [homosexual-and-more] harlot, make [her] desolate and naked, and burn up [her] flesh with fire, for God has put it into his heart to carry out his [righteous-retribution] purpose pertaining to eliminate all counterproductive-to-his-complete-control immoral dissidents . . . even though the Beast will cause Great Tribulation against both Jewish and non-Jewish saints of the Lord during that near-future time period.
A foreshadowing already occurred when the Nazi Fuehrer suddenly and non-expectedly executed homoqueer bullyboy Brownshirts who had helped get the fledgling Nazi Party into power (against the fledgling Communist Party) during the late 30s, and forced known homosexuals into concentration camps and wear pink triangles (which this author has seen actual newsreel clips of).
Pertaining to the first point stated above, do not the current pro-homosexual proponents (those especially of CNN and MSNBC) realize that that economic-restriction mandate of not-being-able-to-buy-or-sell-without-The-666-Mark has NOT occurred yet?
Consequently, genuine Christian saints yet fund whoever they want, and you can be sure that they neither want nor do not (as much as possible) deliberately and willfully donate financial monies to homogay effeminate, homosodomites, evolutionists, abortionists, atheists, antisemites, pornographers, immodestly-misattired-in-public exhibitionists, nor sexist feminists.
Such bonafide Christians, albeit a very-vocal, rather-well-organized, and determined minority, will fund those who are explicitly against sexually-oriented perverts and luridly-wicked types previously mentioned.
Not only that, such authentic Christian missionaries will legislatively and judicially influence everyone to divert government allocations of all sorts away from homogay effeminate, homosodomites, evolutionists, abortionists, atheists, antisemites, pornographers, immodestly-misattired-in-public exhibitionists, and/or sexist feminists . . . and instead toward those against such evil vermin, especially relating to apportioned public taxation.
Already, Christian individuals rightly can and legitimately do separately patronize whatever commercial public businesses they want, as they also can (and do!) in Christian groups, associations, churches, camps, schools, hospitals, charities, unions, clubs, societies, and so forth.
The recent flap in Arizona pertaining to moralistic Republicans in that legislature exercising their well-intentioned reactionary-against-homogay/homosodomite-activists and grievance against same-gender homosodomy-unions licensing (mis-called: "same-sex "gay" marriage") right to governmentally encourage or allow commercial businesses in Arizona to discriminate against potentially-vile antisocial and pollutive customers on the basis of reasonably-proven religiously-related grounds, had noble and perhaps Scriptural intentions behind it, but that legislation (vetoed by the governor) was (in one sense) somewhat superfluous and redundant .... because managers and personnel operating privately-owned businesses (even though such are registered as commercial businesses with the federal and state IRS) already had and have the right (under certain parameters and stipulations) to discriminate against any potential customer for any lawful cause "under God" and the American government must (with respect to the Constitution's First Amendment Non-Establishment-of-Religion/Non-Prohibition-of-Religion Clauses under which the American government of the United States has been and continues to be bound) allow both private individuals and business owners or proprietors of good conscience to so discreetly discriminate in orderly ways against what arguably is still overtly offensive and financially detrimental to the sane and civilized.
To give an example here in Minnesota, there was (a while back) a gun-rights law passed by the MN Legislature allowing registered firearm owners with gun-carrying permits to enter public buildings with their concealed firearms. However, many owners and managers of large and small companies in the State objected to such a questionable (and dangerous to them) opportunity for those few who on occasion might not display "Minnesota Nice" to occupants inside those corporations and companies concerning those concealed weapons. And as a result, here and there are still found signs at the entrances of such businesses: "NO GUNS ALLOWED ON THESE PREMISES."
Now, carrying concealed firearms is different than entering a corporation, company, or store to exhibit disgusting and obnoxious homosexual displays of perverted lust (misnamed "love") and/or to peddle pro-homogay or sexist feminist or atheistic or antisemitic or evolutionist or abortionist propaganda on the premises (which prohibition might be accomplished to some extent by posted "NO SOLICITING" signs prominently displayed wherever on business premises).
Violating such postings would result in prompt and understandable 911 calls for police to intervene and charge particularly flagrant and defiant offenders with 'disturbing the peace' or 'being a public nuisance' or 'peddling without a license' or 'disorderly conduct.'
However, when the owner or manager of a privately-owned business does desire to exclude homosexuals (or those deemed with reasonable probable cause to be homosexuals), or atheists, or evolutionists, or sexist feminists, or antisemites, or immodest exhibitionists, or abortionists, such is currently and presently quite legally permissible . . . if the proprietor of the business prominently-enough displays to potential customers (in Yellow-Page advertising, with large-enough-lettered warning signs on the entrance doors of the establishment, in bold-type fine print on contracts, etc.) his desire to exclude the type of deviates the proprietor considers intolerable and non-fit to trespass into his privately-owned company property.
The frequently-seen brightly-colored cones near the doorways of some fast-food businesses read: WET FLOOR, and they mean exactly what they state during wet weather or whatever, with the obvious implication that footing slippage and consequential bodily injury could thus occur, and so such prominent obstructions in walkways are cheap but effective insurance against being successfully sued by some careless customer who arrogantly disregards caution as to where and how he or she walks near such cones.
It is not impossible for even the most intellectually-challenged (i.e. stupid or idiotic or insane) homosexual, feminist, abortionist, evolutionist, atheist, antisemite, immodest exhibitionist, cultic nut, etc. to "get the point" that they are not welcome into and on certain properties owned and operated by certain managers and proprietors.
In polite and considerate response, they should (and must!) "take the hint" plainly directed at and against them, back off rather than fight (keeping in mind who owns and runs what), and go find whoever wherever elsewhere to accommodate their peculiar personal and/or special-interest-group aberration.
Such Sodom-and-Gomorrah-reminiscent segregation is not only courteous common sense and common law, but Scriptural (as commanded avoidance-of-evil verses are profuse within Holy Writ). As to who should intrude upon whom, whether by use of military government or civilian mechanisms and manipulation, the Bible of America's stated Creator sets the ultimate standards as to who should have the majority, the upper-hand, and the overriding-opinion determination:
More often than not, selective censorship is crucial, for important reasons.
Numbers 16:26 And he said to the congregation, "Leave, I implore you, the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest you be swept away with all their sins."
27 So they got away from about the residence of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram; and Dathan and Abiram came out and stood at the door of their tents, together with their wives, their sons, and their little ones.
28 And Moses said, "Hereby you shall know that the LORD has sent me to do all these works, and that it has not been of my own accord.
29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they are visited by the fate of all men, then the LORD has not sent me.
30 But if the LORD creates something new, and the ground opens its mouth, and swallows them up, with all that belongs to them, and they go down alive into Sheol, then you shall know that these men have despised the LORD."
31 And as he finished speaking all these words, the ground under them split asunder;
32 and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households and all the men that belonged to Korah and all their goods.
Psalm 106:17 the earth opened and swallowed up Dathan, and covered the company of Abiram.
Second Kings 1:10 But Elijah answered the captain of fifty, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty." Then fire came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.
12 But Elijah answered them, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty." Then the fire of God came down from heaven and consumed him and his fifty.
13 Again the king sent the captain of a third fifty with his fifty. And the third captain of fifty went up, and came and fell on his knees before Elijah, and entreated him, "Oh man of God, I pray you, let my life, and the life of these fifty servants of yours, be precious in your sight.
14 Wow, fire came down from heaven, and consumed the two former captains of fifty men with their fifties; but now let my life be precious in your sight."
15 Then the angel of the LORD said to Elijah, "Go down with him; do not be afraid of him." So he arose and went down with him to the king."
Second Kings 6:17 Then Elisha prayed, and said, "Oh LORD, I pray you, open his eyes that he may see." So the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw; and hey, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
Second Kings 19:35 And that night the angel of the LORD went forth, and slew a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians; and when men arose early in the morning, hey, these were all dead bodies.
Second Chronicles 19:2 But Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to King Jehoshaphat, "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the LORD? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the LORD."
Job 8:22 Those who hate you will be clothed with shame, and the tent of the wicked will be no more.
Job 11:20 But the eyes of the wicked will fail; all way of escape will be lost to them, and their hope is to breathe their last.
Job 18:5 Yes, the light of the wicked is put out, and the flame of his fire does not shine.
Job 20:3 I hear censure which insults me, and out of my understanding a spirit answers me. Job 20:4 Do you not know this from of old, since man was placed upon earth, Job 20:5 the exulting of the wicked is short, and the joy of the godless but for a moment?
Proverbs 13:20 He who walks with wise men becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm.
Jeremiah 28:15 And Jeremiah the prophet said to the prophet Hananiah, "Listen, Hananiah, the LORD has not sent you, and you have made this people trust in a lie.
Jeremiah 28:16 Therefore thus says the LORD: 'Hey, I will remove you from the face of the earth. This very year you shall die, because you have uttered rebellion against the LORD.'"
Jeremiah 28:17 In that same year, in the seventh month, the prophet Hananiah died.
Acts 5:3 But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of the land?
4 While it remained non-sold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? How is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God."
5 When Ananias heard these words, he fell down and died. And great fear came upon all who heard of it.
6 The young men got up and wrapped him up and carried him out and buried him.
7 After an interval of about three hours his wife came in, not knowing what had happened.
8 And Peter said to her, "Tell me whether you sold the land for so much." And she said, "Yes, for so much."
9 But Peter said to her, "How is it that you have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of those that have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out."
10 Immediately she fell down at his feet and died. When the young men came in they found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her beside her husband.
11 And great fear came upon the whole church, and upon all who heard of these things.
Acts 12:23 Immediately an angel of the Lord smote [Herod], because he did not give God the glory; and he was eaten by worms and died.
Romans 16:17 I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who create dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them.
Second Corinthians 6:17 "Therefore come out from them, and be separate from them," says the Lord, "and touch nothing unclean; then I will welcome you . . ."
Ephesians 5:7 Therefore do not associate with them. . .
First Timothy 6:20 Oh Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid the godless chatter and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge . . .
Second Timothy 2:16 Avoid such godless chatter, for it will lead people into more and more godlessness . . .
Second Timothy 3:5 holding the form of religion but denying the power of it. Avoid such people.
It behooves all residents and citizens of this nation claiming to be "Under God" who exchange currency embedded with the motto: "In God We Trust" to comply and adjust to the Basic-Operating-System Directives of whatever American-tradition-accepted-and-embraced "God" not only the Founding Fathers cherished and enslaved themselves to, but also and similarly all those closely following after them who have been and yet are ideologically identical morally (both in general public and in private).
Suffice it to say that committing (and not "performing") homogay sodomy, abortion-homicide murder, anti-Jewish/anti-Israel antisemitism, heretical-fool atheism, immodest indecent-exposure which is in-effect lewd-and-lascivious pornography, etc. are NOT at ALL concordant with the majority's conception of "The God in Whom They Trust" (who, I dare say, was, is, and will continue to be: Jesus Christ referenced within His Holy Word and qualified in and by Leviticus 20:13, Ecclesiastes 7:26-28, Isaiah 3:12, Nahum 3:13, Romans 1:26-28, First Corinthians 6:9-10, First Timothy 2:11-15, First Timothy 5:14 (KJV) and a lot more).
Life is a mixture of both discrimination and non-discrimination.
The blind non-discrimination at a four-way-stop intersection, at which whoever gets there first has both the right and the obligation to cross that intersection first (be they communist, nazi, illegal alien, fascist, predator, thief, hatefully-malicious homofaggot or TV-talkshow-host homodikes promoter, Republican-males-despising sassy-twit feminist, antisemitic islamic terrorist, or Christian evangelistic preacher) reminds us all that God dumps His snow on the driveways of both the just and the injust, and at times does not distinguish between the righteous and the wicked as to who gets chilled by His subzero winter temperatures:
Matthew 5:45 . . . so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the injust.
Romans 3:23 . . . since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Sometimes the discrimination is self-imposed within The Given Playing Field God has confined everyone to:
Proverbs 11:8 The righteous is delivered from trouble, and the wicked gets into it instead.
At other times, God makes even a definitive lethal distinction as to who gets blessed contrasted with who gets cursed, and the Divine Umpire instigates and enforces His holy discrimination or "ethnic cleansing" as He sees fit:
Exodus 8:21 . . . if you will not let my people go, hey, I will send swarms of flies on you and your servants and your people, and into your houses; and the houses of the Egyptians shall be filled with swarms of flies, and also the ground on which they stand.
Exodus 8:22 But on that day I will set apart the land of Goshen, where my people reside, so that no swarms of flies shall be there; that you may know that I am the LORD in the midst of the earth.
Amos 4:7 And I also withheld the rain from you when there were yet three months to the harvest; I would send rain upon one city, and send no rain upon another city; one field would be rained upon, and the field on which it did not rain withered . . .
Zechariah 14:17 And if any of the families of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, there will be no rain upon them.
Malachi 3:16 Then those who feared the LORD spoke with one another; the LORD heeded and heard them, and a book of remembrance was written before Him of those who feared the LORD and thought on His name.
Malachi 3:17 "They shall be mine," says the LORD of hosts, "my special possession on the day when I act, and I will spare them as a man spares his son who serves him.
Malachi 3:18 Then once more you shall distinguish between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him."
Matthew 25:31 When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne.
32 Before Him will be gathered all the nations (including those at CNN and MSNBC, and morality-hating broadcast and newsprint editorialists), and He will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats,
33 and He will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left.
41 Then He will say to those at His left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels;
42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.'
44 Then they also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?'
45 Then He will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these [zealously-"extremist/radical" political-action anti-homogay Christian activists], you did it not to me.'
46 And they will go away into eternal punishment [in the fiery outer darkness], but the righteous into eternal life."
A threat? Yes, and, a promise!
Romans 9:13 As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means!
15 For He says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
16 So it depends not upon man's will or exertion, but upon God's mercy.
17 For the scripture says to Pharaoh, "I have raised you [and those at CNN and MSNBC] up for the very purpose of showing my power in you, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth."
18 So then He has mercy upon whomever He wills, and He hardens the heart of whomever He wills.
19 You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who can resist His will?"
20 But who are you, a man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me thus?"
21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for beauty and another for menial use?
God's choice as to anyone's eternal fate is dependent upon the choice of each and every anyone, and clearly it is "either His way or the highway" [to the outer-darkness Lake of Fire]. HE is The Boss, and no one is able to overthrow nor successfully compete against The Forever-Anti-Homosexuals Almighty God.
Numbers 7:89 =
And when Moses went into the tent of meeting to speak with the Lord, he heard The Voice speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was upon the ark of the testimony, from between the two cherubim; and It spoke to him.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.
Romans 1:24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,
27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
First Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the non-righteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (i.e. homogays), nor [same-gender] sodomites,
First Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.
This Christian/Jewish/Muslim-oriented Web-based or other entity, business, restaurant, prepay gas-n-groceries store, hardware store, worship center, realty, motel, bank, etc. - under present DOMA federal law - legally reserves the right to prohibit entrance by, and/or employment and/or affiliated association with, the following persons:
(1) Homosexual couples claiming to be "married" who have acquired State Sodomy-Union Licenses or Biblically-defined equivalents.
(2) Female humans publicly exposing loose long hair (longer than mouth-level), sleevesless naked arms, slacksless nude legs, and/or socksless bare feet in noisy/attention-getting flipflop sandals.
(3) Anyone who smokes and/or publicly exposes any non-earring body piercings and/or visible tattoos.
(4) Any male publicly wearing a ring or rings in either or both of their earlobes and/or utters profanity.
(5) Any adult human not carrying a concealed weapon, and a KJV plus RSV Bible.
This might come as a shock to some.
It is impossible for a husband to sodomize his wife, or for a wife to sodomize her husband.
Let me repeat:
It is IMPOSSIBLE for a HUSBAND to "sodomize" his WIFE,
or for a WIFE to "sodomize" her HUSBAND.
I mean exactly what I just said. EVERY WORD of it!
No matter what part of his body or some reasonable object (such as his finger, his penis, a dildo, etc.) the [male] husband uses to erotically excite his [female] wife, OR she uses to erotically excite his, such can NEVER be considered "sodomy."
No matter WHAT orifice he sensually inserts WHATEVER into his wife for sexual gratification, such act is NEVER "sodomy."
In fact, even if a [male] man would erotically insert whatever wherever into whatever orifice of an female infant, female toddler, female tween, or under-age-18 female teen......it would NEVER be considered "sodomy."
If the male human and the female human were not married to each other at the time, it WOULD be considered fornication, however, and if he was already married to someone else except to the female human he inserted whatever wherever into, it would be considered adultery on his part, and forced fornication on the part of the non-married female human.
The pics below are randomly-arranged snippets of some of my now-deceased grandfather's poems.
He was a conscientious and caring father of three daughters, one of whom was my mother,
and he was a Covenant pastor of and for various churches in throughout Minnesota.
His name was Reverend Peder Andrew Langvand, and is now reposing in a cemetery
in south Superior Wisconsin near Duluth Minnesota alongside his first wife, Helen Peterson.